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  • I was wondering if I could apply for adminship, if only to stop clogging Kalbintion's message wall with vandalizer reports. I've worked for a while on this wiki and am doing a lot of work to keep the vandalizers, which seem to be so prolific, off.

    Best,

    SilverHexxitFights (talk) 01:40, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

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    • Just to let you know, Silver is one of the nicest guys and most natural admins I've ever met. He has never let anyone on my wiki down.

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    • Thank you, Gray.

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    • Hey Silver! Its great to see your interested in becoming an admin. However, I don't really think that we need another admin at this time. Most of the admin duties over the last few weeks have been on Kalbinton because I've been busy with my return to college. I do plan to be more active now that im readjusted. I do thank you for your continued effort to make this wiki a better place, and if we do begin to look for another admin in the future (which, if the wiki gets any popular or something happens, then we should) then you'll be at the top of our list for consideration. If you don't want to keep flooding kalbinton's message wall then you can also redirect some of the messages to me too. Thanks again for your continued help! ^u^

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    • Oh, true that. Thank you and you're welcome!

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    • I wouldn't be against Silver being an admin. Especially considering Rikann-Z doesnt administrate nor edit anymore and Maru is essentially mia even though he himself said hed start being active again on his message wall.

      If either of those two come back and start being active again along with you Jeter, I would have to agree but presently I do not see any reason why we couldnt have another sysop being able to do some things here, however we really need to get some administrative standards going for punishing IPs/members when rules are broken.

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    • Rikann-Z? Who's that?

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    • Rikann-Z was around when JeterNY joined originally and did some of the first edits but he has been mia for a while

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    • Ah, okay.

      And thank you for... vouching for me, I guess it would be called.

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    • I have sent an email to Wikia staff asking for some additional user groups to be added for the Hexxit Wikia, these specifically for allowing users (Such as Silver) to assist us in maintaining the wiki without obtaining a full sysop or bureaucrat status.

      The first one being a "Blocker" user group that can block (but not unblock) users and them sending email, this would be a rare group to give out but could allow more trusted users the ability to undo damage and stop vandalism.

      Second being a "File Mover" which is as it sounds, I remember myself being here originally and getting file names incorrect when originally having them uploaded, but couldn't move the file due to not having permissions. This often left files unused, and is meant to help users move files they uploaded or move others files without the need to reupload the same file under a different name.

      The last being a "Comment Patroller" that has the ability to delete, edit, and move page comments. This is meant to assist similar to the blocker status in preventing vandalism/spam/etc

      I'll post their response if they are able to do this, and/or what they want us to do at this point.

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    • According to Klintran on the AJ wiki, a forum thread must be made and get 10+ (?) Kudos before that's accepted.

      But I'm not quite sure of the protocol.

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    • I really like those ideas! I'd Kudos any thread with them, definitely.

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    • The Hexxit wikia has no "karma" styled system in place, and if they want us to have a discussion about it before having them im place, i said in the contact email to have them talk to me before shooting it down so we can get this moving. This also isn't the first time i've contacted them about getting odd things incorporated (its how the Template:USERNAME page came about) so, we'll see.

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    • Hopefully they'll allow your ideas to go, even though we don't have anything like what they originally wanted.

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    • Forum:Additional_Usergroups - they want a community agreement before implementation.

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    • How do we post on it?

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    • Edit the page like normal, and place your response below the page content. Only time not to place it at the bottom is if you're responding to a particular response, in which case indent the content.

      If you're using source editor (which I recommend for all users) then scroll to the bottom of the editor window, you'll see a comment I placed saying where to add additional responses, and to indent, precede the line with : (Note: Every new line you create [via enter, not a wrapped line] you'll need to place the appropriate number of :'s to indent as well)

      Edit: If you've ever used a normal talk page, and not a message wall or comment system (ie: pages that begin with the namespace then a _talk: prefix is a normal talk page, such as the talk page, prior to the message wall addition, for my user page is User_talk:Kalbintion, or the talk page to say, the grid/crafting table template would be Template_talk:Grid/Crafting Table.) it would be exactly like that.

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    • Okay, I've used talk pages before. Done.

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    • I would at least mention that you agree on those, as just leaving your name on it doesn't imply agreement or disagreement.

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    • Oh, fair point. I'll add that to mine.

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    • If you want, feel free to use a new template, Template:Support, Template:Oppose, or Template:Comment to signify a more quick easy prefix. After it, explain why if u want

      Edit: For an example of how this could be useful/used, see User_blog:Kalbintion/Templates:Support,_Oppose,_and_Comment

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    • I like those templates!

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    • JeterNYY, to keep you updated - those three user groups have been added by wikia staff. However, I would still like to see whom, if any, would be appropriate for them at this time.

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    • That's great!

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    • Thanks for keeping me updated on the progress ^^

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    • I have given Silver the commentpatroller and filemover groups, but was wondering if he should get blocker as well. I had said on his message wall that due to the nature of blocker I would prefer having multiple admins agree to it.

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    • Well it seems that if he had all three of those he would basically be an admin. Silver, what was the biggest problem you had because you weren't an admin?

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    • That simply isn't the case. There are a lot more permissions that go into the sysop group than you would expect.

      Here's a small list of the differences:

      + Bypass IP blocks, auto-blocks and range blocks (ipblock-exempt)
      + Bypass automatic blocks of proxies (proxyunbannable)
      + Change protection levels and edit protected pages (protect)
      + Delete pages with large histories (bigdelete)
      + Edit blog articles (blog-articles-edit)
      + Edit items in a Top 10 list page (toplists-edit-item)
      + Modify abuse filters (abusefilter-modify)
      + Modify abuse filters with restricted actions (abusefilter-modify-restricted)
      + Override the spoofing checks (override-antispoof)
      + Override the title blacklist (tboverride)
      + Revert all changes by a given abuse filter (abusefilter-revert)
      + Search deleted pages (browsearchive)
      + Unblock themselves (unblockself)
      + Undelete a page (undelete)
      + View deleted history entries, without their associated text (deletedhistory)
      + View deleted text and changes between deleted revisions (deletedtext)
      + View detailed abuse log entries (abusefilter-log-detail)
      + admindashboard (admindashboard)
      + notifyeveryone (notifyeveryone)
      + Add groups: blocker, filemover and commentpatroller
      + Remove groups: blocker, filemover and commentpatroller
      + Add groups to own account: blocker, filemover and commentpatroller
      + Remove group from own account: Administrators
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    • JeterNYY wrote:
      Well it seems that if he had all three of those he would basically be an admin. Silver, what was the biggest problem you had because you weren't an admin?

      I couldn't block vandalizers.

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    • SilverHexxitFights wrote:
      JeterNYY wrote:
      Well it seems that if he had all three of those he would basically be an admin. Silver, what was the biggest problem you had because you weren't an admin?
      I couldn't block vandalizers.

      Ok well I think that, since he's done a lot for the wiki, he should get blocker privledges. However, I don't really think he needs the other two, although it doesn't really matter too much if he keeps them or not.

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    • I've never really wanted either of them, nope. Occasionally I do find a rude comment, however.

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    • File Mover group is meant to allow users to move files, because without - only sysops and higher can actually move them. There are A LOT of files that are improperly named to the image name standards. While it isn't "admin" related per say, it is something normal users cannot do albeit they should be able to. I've already given my reasoning though on wanting this group to give to people.

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    • I've never wanted to be able to do that. I had no idea about moving files until now.

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    • I believe being able to move files should be a default thing, but due to a potential security issue — details unknown — with it, it isn't a default thing. Most users who have been around a while should be permitted to tho however, even if they had no idea about or it nor intended to. Because who knows, maybe you'll some day go and attempt to rename a file and will have to bug us about renaming it or getting the group. I see no reason why you shouldn't have it though, even if u don't use it.

      As for the blocker group - I gave you that a few minutes ago. Congrats.

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    • I think autoconfirmed users should be able to move files.

      And thank you! I'll be sure to be on the lookout.

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    • Well, again, they would default to users being able to do it - but that security issue is more important.

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